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Hi everyone,
I am looking to build a large size RAWcnc machine. My working material is 3000x900mm, so I need the frame with a size of around 4 meters.
Where should I start? As standard shipping couriers in Europe usually don't accept packages over 2 or 2.4 meters, ordering a 4-meter profile online seems to require expensive custom freight delivery.
For those of you who have built large tables:
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Where did you source your long extrusions? (I am located in Latvia / the Baltics).
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Did you pay for commercial freight, or did you splice shorter 2-meter profiles together to save on shipping?
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If you spliced them, how did you ensure the frame remained perfectly rigid and didn't sag in the middle?
Thanks in advance for the advice!
Best regards, Gatis
I have yet to order frame parts or to build the table. I thought the designer said you can use shorter pieces of Extruded Aluminum and splice them together assuming that you have a strong table underneath the frame to fully support the spliced frame.
I live in the USA, and shipping maybe different than for you. For another hobby of mine, I launch high power rockets (think of a rocket that is 3 meters tall and weights 23 kg) and I use Extruded Aluminum as a launch rail system. For the launch rail, I had to buy a 5.5 m of aluminum from here in the USA and ship it to me. Shipping cost over 2 times the cost of the rail because I had to ship the single piece of extruded aluminum on a truck as less than a load.
Bottom line: if you have money for shipping, then it should be no problem. Otherwise plan on picking it up at the factory and driving it home with the appropriate vehicle.
Hi there, Baltic neighbor!
Since you are building such a long machine, I assume you are building a rack & pinion version like me.
I ordered my aluminium parts from the prepared list you get after purchase from the European company Motedis. It worked perfectly. (I live in Sweden).
They have no longer parts than 2000mm as standard. They do offer longer parts but be aware that freight costs skyrocket if you do just as you describe yourself. Shipping costs will be substantially higher than the material itself.
I will offer you my thoughts here. I am an engineer and fairly experienced in mechanical machining prerequisite although I am originally trained and educated on electrical and electronics engineering. Just so you understand from which place I originate my thoughts.
I was originally planning to build the machine longer but ended up with the 2000mm version due to the above reason and workshop space considerations.
I think it will be no problem extending the machine to 3000mm. The rigidity will be enough since the linear rails and the racks add mechanical strength, and so will the spoil board. Here's my suggestions:
* Buy linear rails as it fits. You will need 4 of them 1500mm length or any combination of lengths that give you the correct total length. Remember that you need four glide blocks also for the z-axis (8 in total).
* When you order aluminium make sure you do not splice those in the same place where you have the ends of the linear rails meet. For rigidity you need the linear rail to cross the aluminium splice point in one piece. Have the two rails meet at another point. The same goes for the racks.
* There are specific t-nuts made for splicing they have several screw holes and are several centimeters long. They come in many variants, you find them on Temu for example or on Amazon, ebay etc.
* Consider additional structural strength added by steel reinforces across splice points of the base aluminium frame.
* Longer machines mean longer cables. Consider going for a good shielded cable right from the start.
* Connect the spoil board a bit extra with a few more screws.
With those suggestions, I think there is no need to buy full length. Splicing is fine.
Good luck!
Steve
PS. I used to do rockery when I was younger, you must show us what you've built! 🙂
Forgot to say: please observe that regardless if you splice the base aluminium structure or not, the aluminium should _not_ be holding the weight of he machine. If you wish to do that you have to reinforce it on the inside with steel tubes. That is not a bad idea under any circumstance since a heater, sturdier and more rigid machine adds to the overall precision and reduces wear.
